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    HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  crazywipe on Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:55 am

    Aggiornamento della 400i, prezzo 500 USD circa.

    Il design sembra bello!





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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  Johnny1982 on Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:22 am

    Il drive è nuovo ? Oppure è un cambio solo di forma ?


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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  SmokeIII on Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:27 am

    Il cambio archetto esteticamente mi gusta un po’ meno il colore generale della cuffia ,accentua la sensazione di plastica.
    Se sarà confermato il prezzo andrà a finire nel settore della HD660s anche lei in
    “Total lutto”


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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  mc 73 on Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:49 am

    La cuffia ha dei trasduttori diversi rispetto alla 400i

    https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/casques-casques-audio/hifiman-sundara-audiophile-open-planar-magnetic-headphone-high-sensibility-94db-p-12378.html


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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  turo91 on Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:14 pm

    Le 400i per me erano una delle migliori cuffie rapporto qualità prezzo, queste esteticamente son più belle, chissà se suonano bene, son curioso


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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  Johnny1982 on Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:36 pm

    turo91 wrote:Le 400i per me erano una delle migliori cuffie rapporto qualità prezzo, queste esteticamente son più belle, chissà se suonano bene, son curioso



    nella fascia dei 300€ la 400i è la migliore che mi è capitato di sentire ...


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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  SmokeIII on Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:21 pm

    https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/canjam-rmaf2017-hifiman-sundara-open-planar-magnetic-headphones


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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  crazywipe on Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:24 pm

    SmokeIII wrote:https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/canjam-rmaf2017-hifiman-sundara-open-planar-magnetic-headphones

    Stesso suono della 560...


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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  SmokeIII on Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:30 pm

    crazywipe wrote:

    Stesso suono della 560...

    Appunto..non so se sia un bene o un male.


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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  Johnny1982 on Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:37 pm

    non ho sentito la 560 , spero allora lasceranno in vendita la 400i e toglieranno la 560 ...

    un modelo economico e ben suonante come la 400i sarebbe meglio lo lasciassero nella lineup ...

    alla fine se uno prende un buon dac-amp tipo ifi , mojo o anche il più modesto dragonfly red + le 400i ha un sistema di buona qualità avendo speso poco più di 500€ o forse anche meno ...


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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  Amuro_Rey on Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:58 pm

    crazywipe wrote:

    Stesso suono della 560...

     Va bene che sono cinesi ma AUTO-COPIARSI ... non ne capisco il senso di questa cuffia che in effetti da molto più il senso di plasticosità


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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  SmokeIII on Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:08 pm





    a parte l'archetto che mi piace davvero di più della "vecchia"
    ESTETICAMENTE non la cambierei...
    p.s. ma sto rincoglionendo o hanno ripreso i reggi cups dalle Beyer
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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  franci2105 on Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:16 pm

    Da Amazon.com

    5.0 out of 5 starsAmazing set of Headphones!!!!
    January 26, 2018
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    So far I have owned/tried Audio Technica M50, AKG K712 pro, Hifiman 400S, 400I, 4XX, Sennheiser HD600, HD700, and Monoprice M1060. I sold almost all of them except the 400I but those are boxed and going to be sold after hearing the Sundara. I’m an audiophile and music lover. Not a professional reviewer/writer with headphone test equipment. I’m a fan of all genres of music but mostly listen to alternative, rock, classic and acoustic. But I also listen to jazz and even harder stuff like Nine Inch Nails.
    It’s very comfortable and the pads don’t get hot. I felt the Focus/Focus A pads on the 400I/4XX got a little warm. The pads are leather on the outside and a soft almost spandex like material on the part that touches your head. They seem to have memory foam in them so it’s soft against your head. The clamp is only moderately more than the Hifiman 400S and 400I but less than the HD600. It feels very stable on your head and doesn’t feel loose like the K712.
    Build wise I think it’s pretty good but not perfect. I don’t like to agonize over the build it seems solid enough to last a while. But certain things like how the ear cup adjusters uses metal pins and scratch the inside of the ear cup arms, it doesn’t bother me but some people might get annoyed. Also the adjustment is very firm so that could be taken either way. The leather on the outside of the pad was a little wrinkled but it will probably come out with time. Also the pads are a little unevenly bevelled but not by much. Both focus pads were the same way. The cable is good rubber cable similar to the one that comes with the 4XX. The cable keeps it’s shape a little but it’s not springy. Nothing like the 400S cable, that tried to keep its shape if it had been rolled up. The box was the exact same as the new 400I box, it’s got a foam mold with a dark purple clothe lining it. It’s not like the old 400I or higher end model boxes but it’s nice enough.
    They are just as easy to drive as the 400I, 400S 4XX were. My iphone 6s got them to a decent volume without having to put the volume all the way up. I got the same volume from them out of my Onkyo RZ800 receiver headphone jack as the 400I, 400S, 4XX. I don’t have a dedicated headphone amp but I can imagine it would bring them to another level.
    I’ve listen to the Sundara for about 10 hours and it is an absolutely incredible headphone. If I had to sum it up in a couple words I would have to say smooth, resolving, natural. The Sundara has great detail in every section of the frequency spectrum but doesn’t over emphasize or distort. It has amazing bass. The sub bass extends down very low and is extremely quick and clean. It’s definitely good planar bass. The mids are excellent as well. Vocal clarity and detail is amazing. Both female and male singers sound very natural and present. The treble is very extended but natural, it does not sound harsh in anyway. The headphone as a whole is very musical, easy to listen to, and sounds natural. But it’s also very detailed but without being analytical. The soundstage is very open and wide but not too much were its exaggerated. The sound stage is extremely well defined. Imaging is excellent. Instrument and vocal places seem correct. The vocals are just high enough in the mix but without being too in your face. It almost feels like the singer is singing to you with the band right behind them. I really love the soundstage and imaging of these headphones.
    This headphone has combined a lot of the individual strengths of the headphones I’ve had or tried so far. It has better detail and resolution than all of them, even the HD700. Which had good resolution and detail but was sharp in the treble. The midrange is very natural and smooth like the HD600 but more detailed. It might not be a neutral as the HD600 but that’s hard to determine because I’d have to A/B a bunch songs and like I said I’m not a professional reviewer. The soundstage is almost as wide as the K712 but not so much that it sounds unnatural. I don’t want to say it’s warmer than the 400I and 4XX but it sounds more natural and real. The overall sound is to my ears superior to the 400S, 400I, and 4XX in every category (tone, bass and treble extension, clarity, soundstage, imaging) but it’s almost twice the price. For me it was worth it but for some it might not. Everyone’s ears and hearing are different so your mileage will vary.
    I apologize if I sound like the Sundara is the end all be all. I’m sure it’s not. I’m sure there are better headphones out there. But for $500.00 it seems like very good value for the sound quality and comfort you are getting. For me I didn’t want to spend $1,000 on a set of headphones so the Sundara is perfect for me. My goal in buying a set of headphones was to find one that reminds me of my main stereo speakers sound the Goldenear Triton 7s so I can listen to music and watch movies when everyone in my house is asleep. And I think I found it. Hopefully this helps anyone out there trying to decide what to get.



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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  GRIFONE1973 on Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:33 pm

    https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/hifiman-sundara-around-ear-open-planar-magnetic-headphones
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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  giovanni67 on Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:28 pm

    Con la musica sinfonica quindi quale fra la he 400i e la sundara?


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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  franci2105 on Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:00 am

    Interessante confronto...

    Sennheiser HD660 vs HIFIMAN Sundara

    http://majorhifi.com/sennheiser-hd-660-s-vs-hifiman-sundara-comparison-review/

    Dalle varie recensioni in rete la Susvara deve essere una bella cuffia e forse qualcosa di più innovativo della HD660.


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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  Edmond on Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:51 am

    Ma non si conosce mai quale sia l'amplificazione utilizzata per i test....


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    Post  bobgitto on Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:46 am

    Da oggi a 349 euro su Playstereo su un numero limitto si unità
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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  Barone Birra on Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:45 pm

    franci2105 wrote:

    Dalle varie recensioni in rete la Susvara deve essere una bella cuffia e forse qualcosa di più innovativo della HD660.

    Sono d'accordo sunny
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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  franci2105 on Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:24 am

    Riuscirà a capirci qualcosa nella comparata...

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/284840982027602/permalink/528843877627310/


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    Re: HiFiMan Sundara

    Post  franci2105 on Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:02 pm

    Un multi test bello pieno tra cui le Sundara, ma bisogna andare di traduttore con tempo e pazienza. Chi volesse...

    https://www.hifi.nl/artikel/27577/Dossier-betere-head-fi-multi-test-hoofdtelefoons.html

    Quì sotto copio la traduzione, usando inglese cone lingua, delle sole conclusioni dell’articolo. L’ho tradotto tramite google in inglese che sicuramente lo storpia meno che in italiano.

    “Unlike some other dossiers, we do not compare a series of products that do about the same and cost the same in this article. We do not want to just make a ranking from good to bad. It would be a little crazy to compare the Abyss AB-1266 with the Sony MDR-Z7M2, two devices with price tags that are miles apart and also sound differently.

    There are no bad headphones in this file. Once around that 500-euro price point, it is much more about taste and a certain sound signature that the builder strives for. That said, there are two headphones that we find very good perform for their price: the spacious Meze Empyrean and the HiFiman Sundara, which offers an excellent price-quality ratio. They are the Best Tested respectively the Best Buy. If you want more of the same with the Sundara, then the step to the Ananda is definitely worth considering. Are you a lover of electronic music and want to listen while on the go, then the Sony MDR-Z7M2 is highly recommended, but the Elegia is also something for mobile listeners. Laid-back listening with a high level of luxury is again the area where the Denon D9200 is the king. Comfort and relaxation are his fortés.”


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